Just finished Q318 and Q118...

[soupbone]

Took me all day but I got both done. Pretty easy courses and I found them more interesting than most FEMA courses. I looked on the ACE Site and did not see any other "Q" courses listed as having been evaluated. Does anyone have any other "Q" courses they have taken which amounted to any credit being given?

[pugbelly]

Originally Posted by soupbone

Took me all day but I got both done. Pretty easy courses and I found them more interesting than most FEMA courses. I looked on the ACE Site and did not see any other "Q" courses listed as having been evaluated. Does anyone have any other "Q" courses they have taken which amounted to any credit being given?

Those are the only two NFA Independent Study courses that have been ACE evaluated. Even though it's not ACE, TESC grants credit for Q534.

Pug

[soupbone]

Originally Posted by pugbelly

Those are the only two NFA Independent Study courses that have been ACE evaluated. Even though it's not ACE, TESC grants credit for Q534.

Pug

Cool...I'll do that one tomorrow. I also cannot seem to find out how to have these courses transcripted. I searched this site and saw a few postings but never any solutions. The Q course aren't on the ACE site for transcripts. Any ideas?

I also wonder if ACE is going to review this new course:
Awareness of Command and Control Decisionmaking at Multiple Alarm Incidents: Self Study (Q297)

[pugbelly]

Originally Posted by soupbone

Cool...I'll do that one tomorrow. I also cannot seem to find out how to have these courses transcripted. I searched this site and saw a few postings but never any solutions. The Q course aren't on the ACE site for transcripts. Any ideas?

I also wonder if ACE is going to review this new course:
Awareness of Command and Control Decisionmaking at Multiple Alarm Incidents: Self Study (Q297)

NFA should transcript your courses as they are completed, just like FEMA, but they'll actually send you a certificate in the mail. Didn't you get a message following the course completion that said you passed? If you're asking how to get them transcripted by ACE, you'll first have to open an ACE account. I believe it's $35 or $40. NFA does not participate in the electronic transcript verification service that ACE offers so you have to do it the old fashioned way. You'll have to call the help line on the NFA website and tell them that you want to add two completed courses to your ACE transcript. They will send you several documents via email that you have to complete and send back to them. They will then verify the courses and forward them to ACE for transcription. Once transcripted you will be able to see them on your ACE online account.

Pug

[soupbone]

Originally Posted by pugbelly

NFA should transcript your courses as they are completed, just like FEMA, but they'll actually send you a certificate in the mail. Didn't you get a message following the course completion that said you passed? If you're asking how to get them transcripted by ACE, you'll first have to open an ACE account. I believe it's $35 or $40. NFA does not participate in the electronic transcript verification service that ACE offers so you have to do it the old fashioned way. You'll have to call the help line on the NFA website and tell them that you want to add two completed courses to your ACE transcript. They will send you several documents via email that you have to complete and send back to them. They will then verify the courses and forward them to ACE for transcription. Once transcripted you will be able to see them on your ACE online account.

Pug

No Pug I didn't get an email about passing but if I look at my completed courses I can print them from my account. I guess they are going the way of FEMA in that regard. I registered on the ACE site already and I went to the transcript section. The problem is that none of the NFA courses are even listed on the site. I'll send the NFA people an email or call and see if they can send my transcripts to ACE. I'll update the response. Thanks...

[soupbone]

Wow guys. I just finished Q534, It was a very easy course but maybe that's because it was a Terrorism course and I'm in law enforcement. Either way it was pretty quick and easy.

[pugbelly]

Originally Posted by soupbone

No Pug I didn't get an email about passing but if I look at my completed courses I can print them from my account. I guess they are going the way of FEMA in that regard. I registered on the ACE site already and I went to the transcript section. The problem is that none of the NFA courses are even listed on the site. I'll send the NFA people an email or call and see if they can send my transcripts to ACE. I'll update the response. Thanks...

The reason NFA is not listed on the ACE site is because they don't participate in the electronic verification and transcription process. You have to do it the old fashioned way...have them send you the papers, complete the papers and send back to them, then wait for them to send to ACE.

Pug

[MichaelGates]

American Council on Education (ACE)

http://www.acenet.edu/nationalguide/search/index.cfm

National Emergency Training Center (NFA)

There are two NFA courses for which ACE recommends credit, Q118 & Q318. You can get these listed on your ACE transcript.


67. Fire Service Supervision: Self Study Q318 NNFA-0145
Fire Service Supervision: Self Study (Q318)

ACE Transcript Data: NNFA-0145
Organization: National Emergency Training Center (NFA)
Location: Versions 1 and 2: Nationwide over the USFA/NFA Web site home page.

Length: Version 1: 13 hours (self-study); Version 2: 13 hours (self-study).
Dates: Version 1: May 2000 – June 2003; Version 2: July 2003 – Present
Description: Version 1: 13 hours (self-study) The student will be able to describe techniques for identifying and alleviating stress upon an individual; develop strategies for improving time management; and explain techniques for effective interpersonal communications, motivating, counseling, and coaching subordinates, and conflict resolution.; Version 2: 13 hours (self-study). Student will be able to describe techniques for identifying and alleviating stress upon an individual; develop strategies for improving time management; and explain techniques for effective interpersonal communications, motivating, counseling, and coaching subordinates, and conflict resolution.

Objective: Versions 1 and 2: To introduce public safety services managers and supervisors to principles and techniques of personal and personnel management.

Learning Outcome: Versions 1 and 2: Upon successful completion of this course, the student will be able to describe techniques for identifying and alleviating stress upon an individual; develop strategies for improving time management; and explain techniques for effective interpersonal communications, motivating, counseling, and coaching subordinates, and conflict resolution.

Instruction: Version 1: Major topics covered in the course are stress management, time management, interpersonal communications, employee motivation, counseling and coaching, conflict resolution, and group dynamics. Methods of instruction include case studies, computer-assisted instruction, structured individual activities, self tests at the conclusion of each module, and final examination.; Version 2: Major topics covered in the course are stress management, time management, interpersonal communications, employee motivation, counseling and coaching, conflict resolution, and group dynamics. Methods of instruction include case studies, computer-assisted instruction, individual activities. Method of evaluation includes self-tests and a final examination.

Credit Recommendation: Version 1: In the lower division baccalaureate/associate or upper division baccalaureate degree category, 1 semester hour in Personnel or Human Resources Management, Business or Public Administration, Behavioral Science, Fire Science, Fire Administration, Law Enforcement, or Criminal Justice (6/00).; Version 2: In the vocational or lower division baccalaureate/associate category, 1 semester hour in Personnel or Human Resources Management, Business or Public Administration, Behavioral Science, Fire Science, Fire Administration, Law Enforcement, or Criminal Justice (7/03).

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115. Self-Study Course for Community Safey Educators Q118 NNFA-0149

Self-Study Course for Community Safey Educators (Q118)
ACE Transcript Data: NNFA-0149
Organization: National Emergency Training Center (NFA)
Location: On USFA home page (Internet).
Length: Self-paced (average time 17.5 hours).
Dates: May 2000 – Present

Description: SELF-PACED (AVERAGE TIME 17.5 HRS.) Student will be able to understand and explain various aspects of community safety education; develop a coalition strategy; locate resources; and evaluate community safety education programs.

Objective: To teach fire and emergency service personnel how to do a better job of planning, implementing, and evaluating safety programs, particularly in working with various people in the student's organization and within their community; to help students understand some of the basic concepts about how to get started with an organization's community safety education programs; and to assist students with some tips and techniques on a variety of topics such as methods for locating partners to assist with community education or techniques for locating resources for safety programs. The program is easy-reading, enjoyable and thought-provoking.

Learning Outcome: Upon successful completion of this course, the student will be able to understand and explain various aspects of community safety education; develop a coalition strategy; locate resources; and evaluate community safety education programs.

Instruction: Major topics covered in the course are an overview of community safety education, identifying fire and injury problems, finding a partner, developing a coalition strategy, resources, implementation, and evaluation. Methods of instruction include exercises, case studies, learner presentations/reports, reading, a workbook, exercises, and final examination. The final examination is not proctored. NFA relies on its secure logon and password procedures for validity of student outcomes.

Credit Recommendation: In the vocational certificate or lower division baccalaureate/associate degree category, 1 semester hour in Fire Science, Adult Education, General Education, Public Health, or Safety Studies (8/01) (6/05).

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[pugbelly]

Originally Posted by MichaelGates

American Council on Education (ACE)

http://www.acenet.edu/nationalguide/search/index.cfm

National Emergency Training Center (NFA)

There are two NFA courses for which ACE recommends credit, Q118 & Q318. You can get these listed on your ACE transcript.


67. Fire Service Supervision: Self Study Q318 NNFA-0145
Fire Service Supervision: Self Study (Q318)

ACE Transcript Data: NNFA-0145
Organization: National Emergency Training Center (NFA)
Location: Versions 1 and 2: Nationwide over the USFA/NFA Web site home page.

Length: Version 1: 13 hours (self-study); Version 2: 13 hours (self-study).
Dates: Version 1: May 2000 – June 2003; Version 2: July 2003 – Present
Description: Version 1: 13 hours (self-study) The student will be able to describe techniques for identifying and alleviating stress upon an individual; develop strategies for improving time management; and explain techniques for effective interpersonal communications, motivating, counseling, and coaching subordinates, and conflict resolution.; Version 2: 13 hours (self-study). Student will be able to describe techniques for identifying and alleviating stress upon an individual; develop strategies for improving time management; and explain techniques for effective interpersonal communications, motivating, counseling, and coaching subordinates, and conflict resolution.

Objective: Versions 1 and 2: To introduce public safety services managers and supervisors to principles and techniques of personal and personnel management.

Learning Outcome: Versions 1 and 2: Upon successful completion of this course, the student will be able to describe techniques for identifying and alleviating stress upon an individual; develop strategies for improving time management; and explain techniques for effective interpersonal communications, motivating, counseling, and coaching subordinates, and conflict resolution.

Instruction: Version 1: Major topics covered in the course are stress management, time management, interpersonal communications, employee motivation, counseling and coaching, conflict resolution, and group dynamics. Methods of instruction include case studies, computer-assisted instruction, structured individual activities, self tests at the conclusion of each module, and final examination.; Version 2: Major topics covered in the course are stress management, time management, interpersonal communications, employee motivation, counseling and coaching, conflict resolution, and group dynamics. Methods of instruction include case studies, computer-assisted instruction, individual activities. Method of evaluation includes self-tests and a final examination.

Credit Recommendation: Version 1: In the lower division baccalaureate/associate or upper division baccalaureate degree category, 1 semester hour in Personnel or Human Resources Management, Business or Public Administration, Behavioral Science, Fire Science, Fire Administration, Law Enforcement, or Criminal Justice (6/00).; Version 2: In the vocational or lower division baccalaureate/associate category, 1 semester hour in Personnel or Human Resources Management, Business or Public Administration, Behavioral Science, Fire Science, Fire Administration, Law Enforcement, or Criminal Justice (7/03).

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115. Self-Study Course for Community Safey Educators Q118 NNFA-0149

Self-Study Course for Community Safey Educators (Q118)
ACE Transcript Data: NNFA-0149
Organization: National Emergency Training Center (NFA)
Location: On USFA home page (Internet).
Length: Self-paced (average time 17.5 hours).
Dates: May 2000 – Present

Description: SELF-PACED (AVERAGE TIME 17.5 HRS.) Student will be able to understand and explain various aspects of community safety education; develop a coalition strategy; locate resources; and evaluate community safety education programs.

Objective: To teach fire and emergency service personnel how to do a better job of planning, implementing, and evaluating safety programs, particularly in working with various people in the student's organization and within their community; to help students understand some of the basic concepts about how to get started with an organization's community safety education programs; and to assist students with some tips and techniques on a variety of topics such as methods for locating partners to assist with community education or techniques for locating resources for safety programs. The program is easy-reading, enjoyable and thought-provoking.

Learning Outcome: Upon successful completion of this course, the student will be able to understand and explain various aspects of community safety education; develop a coalition strategy; locate resources; and evaluate community safety education programs.

Instruction: Major topics covered in the course are an overview of community safety education, identifying fire and injury problems, finding a partner, developing a coalition strategy, resources, implementation, and evaluation. Methods of instruction include exercises, case studies, learner presentations/reports, reading, a workbook, exercises, and final examination. The final examination is not proctored. NFA relies on its secure logon and password procedures for validity of student outcomes.

Credit Recommendation: In the vocational certificate or lower division baccalaureate/associate degree category, 1 semester hour in Fire Science, Adult Education, General Education, Public Health, or Safety Studies (8/01) (6/05).

Well I'll be darned! I called ACE and asked them about these two courses and was told that NFA did not use the automated system. I had to file for them using the paper and pencil method!!!! ACE even emailed me the paerwork to complete. Geesh! This would have saved me a lot of time and frustration.

Pug

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[pugbelly]

Originally Posted by pugbelly

Well I'll be darned! I called ACE and asked them about these two courses and was told that NFA did not use the automated system. I had to file for them using the paper and pencil method!!!! ACE even emailed me the paerwork to complete. Geesh! This would have saved me a lot of time and frustration.

Pug

I spoke too soon. Though these courses are listed on the ACE website, they are NOT listed on the part of the website that allows a student to electrnically transcript the course. The person at ACE that I spoke to is correct. In order to add the courses to your ACE transcript you will have to complete all of the paperwork and submit it to ACE manually.

Pug

[MichaelGates]

I have had an ACE account for a long time. To get Q118 & Q318 on my ACE transcript I got the one page National Fire Academy transcript request from the NFA website, filled it out and mailed it to the NFA. I listed ACE as the one for my transcript to be sent to by the NFA. I then waited and checked my account periodically online to see when ACE had them listed. Once listed I requested a copy from ACE to be sent to the college of my choice. Never spoke to anyone from ACE during the process.

[soupbone]

Originally Posted by MichaelGates

I have had an ACE account for a long time. To get Q118 & Q318 on my ACE transcript I got the one page National Fire Academy transcript request from the NFA website, filled it out and mailed it to the NFA. I listed ACE as the one for my transcript to be sent to by the NFA. I then waited and checked my account periodically online to see when ACE had them listed. Once listed I requested a copy from ACE to be sent to the college of my choice. Never spoke to anyone from ACE during the process.

Good to know Michael. I'll look for that link and see if it's still there. Thanks!

[MichaelGates]

Originally Posted by soupbone

Good to know Michael. I'll look for that link and see if it's still there. Thanks!

I have a copy on my website of the US Fire Academy transcript request.

http://www.geocities.com/vajoewebsit...iptRequest.pdf

[soupbone]

Originally Posted by MichaelGates

I have a copy on my website of the US Fire Academy transcript request.

http://www.geocities.com/vajoewebsit...iptRequest.pdf

Awesome man thanks!

[MichaelGates]

Since we are talking about the National Fire Academy, how about having you kids do a free course, while you do a course?

Kids can do earn a JR. Fire Marshall Certificate for completing the U.S. Fire Administration Jr. Fire Marshal Quiz.

http://www.usfa.dhs.gov/kids/flash.shtm


There is also the FEMA Disaster Action Kids course.

http://www.fema.gov/kids

* Try these courses as an adult and see if you can pass them the first time out.

** Don't even ask if can get college credit for these.

[pugbelly]

Originally Posted by MichaelGates

I have had an ACE account for a long time. To get Q118 & Q318 on my ACE transcript I got the one page National Fire Academy transcript request from the NFA website, filled it out and mailed it to the NFA. I listed ACE as the one for my transcript to be sent to by the NFA. I then waited and checked my account periodically online to see when ACE had them listed. Once listed I requested a copy from ACE to be sent to the college of my choice. Never spoke to anyone from ACE during the process.

Wow. That transcript request is WAY easier than the 4 or 5 page book of nonsense ACE sent me to send to the NFA for completion. I think I'll give the simple transcript method a try. That said, I have sent the NFA 3 transcript requests over the last 3 or 4 weeks. Neither TESC or Bellevue has received a copy from them, nor have I....VERY frustrating. I wish they were as easy and as efficient to deal with as FEMA.

Pug

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[MichaelGates]

National Fire Academy
2007-2008 Training Catalog

http://www.usfa.dhs.gov/downloads/pd...fa-273-nfa.pdf


Page 20

Transcript Request

Upon written request from the student, the NETC Office of Admissions will provide transcripts to students and educational institutions at no cost to the student. Please include the following information in your request:

• your full name;
• home mailing address;
• telephone number where you can be reached during the day;
• Social Security number;
• name and address of the college/university to which you want the transcript sent (if applicable); and
• your signature.

Mail or fax your request to:
National Emergency Training Center
Attn: Admissions, Building I, Room 222
16825 S. Seton Avenue
Emmitsburg, MD 21727-8998
Fax: (301) 447-1441

[pugbelly]

Originally Posted by MichaelGates

National Fire Academy
2007-2008 Training Catalog

http://www.usfa.dhs.gov/downloads/pd...fa-273-nfa.pdf


Page 20

Transcript Request

Upon written request from the student, the NETC Office of Admissions will provide transcripts to students and educational institutions at no cost to the student. Please include the following information in your request:

• your full name;
• home mailing address;
• telephone number where you can be reached during the day;
• Social Security number;
• name and address of the college/university to which you want the transcript sent (if applicable); and
• your signature.

Mail or fax your request to:
National Emergency Training Center
Attn: Admissions, Building I, Room 222
16825 S. Seton Avenue
Emmitsburg, MD 21727-8998
Fax: (301) 447-1441

I'm not sure that it matters, but the room number is different on the transcript request form itself. It's room 222 on the address above, room 216 on the transcript form.

Pug

[truckie270]

Originally Posted by pugbelly

I'm not sure that it matters, but the room number is different on the transcript request form itself. It's room 222 on the address above, room 216 on the transcript form.

Pug

Your request will get there - admissions is a small office.

[soupbone]

I was just filling out the NFA transcript request and it notes that it will send a copy to the university or college of your choice. Is it possible to just send it directly to TESC or should I have it transcripted through ACE and then sent?